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Blank Boards? An interview with Michael Brooke
Michael Brooke is the owner/publisher of Concrete Wave Magazine -- the only magazine that actually covers ALL kinds of skateboarding. It's also the only magazine in which you will not find ads for video games, fashion, and other bullshit. It is 100% Skateboarding. I recently had the opportunity to interview Michael about the trend toward increased usage of blank and shop logo boards by skaters, rather than purchasing pro models. This trend has many in the skateboard industry running scared. This is a trend that affects all skaters, so I thought I'd get Michael's ideas on this issue...
BTT: Michael - we've been talking for a while about the skateboard industry's concerns about the increasing popularity of blank boards. I don't know that much about it. Can you describe this issue to BTT readers?
Brooke: Blank, along with shop boards are becoming increasingly popular with many street skaters. There are a host of reasons for this. The key thing to note is that in some shops, blanks have hit 80% market share. That is huge...and very worriesome if you are in the business of making "pro" decks. BTT: What's the difference between American/Canadian web and Chinese boards? Is there really a difference for the average skater? Aren't the pro-board manufacturers able to compete by using overseas manufacturing? Brooke: It gets complicated. For example, most manufacturers are using Canadian or American maple. Some are making boards here in North America, others are making them overseas. Some will say that the glues that are used in China (for example) work better than the glues used in North America (which, because of environmental concerns are not used)...others say that when you store wood in a humid climate (and ship on boats) you run the risk of problems. The truth is that moving to China has saved labor costs, but it has opened up a whole new can of worms. BTT: OK -- I'll bite. What exactly is that "larger problem"? Brooke: ah, funny you should ask that Bob...come with me to the archives, I would like to draw your reader's attention to the Dansworld Website. Dansworld was the first website on skateboarding. In the "industry section" there are minutes of a meeting called "Gentleman's agreement"-my comments are in blue..I've highlighted some of the intriguing parts...read more at Dansworld.com
Gentleman's Agreement
Introduction A group of us met to consider the long term effects on skateboarding and the health of the skateboarding industry. (this was before IASC) Let's stress again; it was not an intentional move to restrict this meeting, or exclude any parties. It was just a starting point of what we hope will be more Cooperation between companies to help the sport grow and tackle some of the problems that are keeping skateboarding from moving forward. The Problem Everyone present at the meeting supports pro skateboarding. Many have been professional skateboarders themselves. But the relationships
The way the industry is going looks bleak and things could get a lot worse before they get any better. If the blank war progresses any further we could find the industry regressing back to a handful of pro's. The intention of this meeting was to avoid such a collapse. (prescient? absolutely! Very few pros make a decent living off of decks...) Notes on the Proceedings: Many conclusions can be drawn from these notes, and if you need more clarification, please call someone who was there. Don't just read between the lines. We'd all be pleased to discuss this with anyone. Overall it was a very positive meeting. 1) The need to rebuild Confidence 2) The state of the Industry ACTION: We need to cooperate together to turn this trend around and head back in a positive direction. 3) Skateboarding doesn't seem like fun anymore ACTION: We as an industry, must concentrate on a more positive future. We have narrowed down skateboarding to a very small market. Bring the fun back and get the negative out. Target beyond the hardcore market: new buyers, cruisers, recreational skaters. (amen brothers and sisters! so what happened???!) New kids who are not aware of all this vibing crap. (vibing crap? talk about a growth industry! as a result of being so narrowly focused, vibing has grown and grown-most hardcore street skaters think anything but street skating is not really skating..they show some tolerance for tranny, but don't get them started on longboarding!) We want the media to show more variety of types of skating out there. (are you listening, Transworld? the hardgoods advertisers WANTED you 12 years ago to change the tune) The companies will promote more accessible skating and more positive images, produce products that are more fun to ride. We need to make a wider board, bigger softer wheels etc as well as the hardcore products. (you mean, VARIETY? Lord knows we can't have that! It would corrupt people! Again, easy to talk and write about, but then well, you know, our pointy eared foe pops up and NOTHING CHANGES!) Tours, demo contests have to portray skateboarding in a better light. Emphasize consistency, positive attitudes, company support and promotion of the sport. Don't send out riders who do not agree with this, otherwise we risk doing more harm than good. (it's been sex, drugs, rockn'roll, hate, kill, destroy etc etc) 4) Blank Boards ACTION: This will require a process of education. We need to demonstrate to the riders how supporting their companies will help the companies support the riders. The riders who help their companies in this way are the ones who should benefit themselves through increased sales, trips to contests, tours, etc. If this takes place we hope to see increased sales, increased payment to riders and more funds to promote skateboarding. Blank products only supports an industry which is doing nothing for skateboarding's future. (they could read the writing on the wall, but my sense they coudn't really find a remarkable way to fix the problem....just "hoping that pros would do something" seems about as sensible as hoping the skate media was going to showcase more variety) ACTION: Everyone agreed to talk to the vendors and suppliers who are selling the blank products. In the long term, sales of blank product will destroy the market by eliminating the funds available for promotion. It's a case of a small short term profit versus the long term health of the Industry. We will also put more logo boards on the market and stabilize product changes to re-establish the strong company identification that has been lost through blank board sales. (did you just see our red tailed pal? he's back...and his pitchfork is pointed in your direction guys!) 5) The new Graphic problem Slowing down graphic changes was discussed briefly. It was accepted that this was killing deck sales. A distributor will only take 10 of a board, a shop will only take one, both then expect a new graphic next time. Reducing the rate of change across the whole industry was brought up but no final solution was agreed. Some in the room said that they have been slowing down already or are about to do so, others said that it was impossible to slow now. ACTION: We all agreed it was a serious situation which needs further discussion. 6) Rider Guarantees ACTION: $500-1000 (for 1994) is more realistic for new pro's or under fresh agreements and when a pro moves to a new company $2 per deck was fine. (If a company has an existing agreement with a pro at $2000 for example, obviously it is up to that company to keep that agreement.) 7) Team Jumping ACTION: If a rider leaves a company, the most that anyone can expect from a new company is $1000 a month. Also communication will take place between the 2 companies and the old company will have 90 days to clear the rider's inventory. During this period the new company can pay the rider but they can't release a model for him. The media will take an active role in not covering the team jumping, riders quitting or other info that will make inventory on a shelf or company or distributor warehouse obsolete. (there is much to ruminate over here...suffice to say, team jumping is still happening) 8) Too many Identical Models ACTION: Don't turn riders pro so easily. It means nothing to be a pro today and the credibility and status of the pros suffer as a result. Have a rider know what is expected of him and what he can expect in return. Make sure 9) New Companies ACTION: We should stop shooting ourselves in the foot by helping a company get set up and running, especially companies who are coming in Conclusion Other Ideas and Topics discussed Skateboarding Promo Video- Maybe by Stacey Peralta. A video aimed at the general market, suitable for sale in every video store in the world. NOT made for the hardcore market. Showing skateboarding as a positive and fun thing to do. ESPN "Max Out" is interested in footage if you have anything to send in to her. (so, even before the Extreme Games, ESPN was sniffing around.....) Drug Abuse and Paying Ams Make Skateboarding more accessible to potential skaters- Right now the general public can't understand skating. It's too technical and too inconsistent. Name another sport in which the pro's are so inconsistent. Everyone must have heard non-skaters at pro contests ask when the pro's skate. We must make them go "Wow! Look at that" if we want them to get their attention. Right now skating does not look fun. The kid could quite possibly pass by the skateshop and go buy a mountain bike or a basketball instead. We must encourage some changes. Modern street skating is rad but we must add to it. Just think if we could have the street scene of today PLUS
BTT: I remember reading that little thing about 7 years ago. Interesting. It seems that the industry has been aware of this "problem" for quite a while. So what's next? Frankly, I don't really see a problem. Street skaters need affordable boards. Blanks satisfy that need. It's my impression that the skateboard industry wants skaters to shell out an extra $20 a deck simply out of the goodness of their hearts, to help out the poor pro skaters and the company owners. If blanks and shop logo decks work for the skateshops, and they work for the skaters, then it seems to me like the skateboard industry might need to evolve. Brooke: This issue is both simple and complex. Skateboarding is always about change...it takes a while for things to BTT: Thanks for your time, Michael.
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